should pay for nebraska, so that nebraska never has to pay any extra money and we -- >> to expand the medicare. >> and then we have to pay 3, 4 billion extra. >> you said the president should rethink health care reform. >> absolutely. that's not health care reform. to go and to put that extra burden, billions of dollars on other states, especially on california. just because we're the best state in the world, the most diverse economy. and everyone wants to come to california is no reason to beat up on california. and to always ask for more money from california. i think it's time for the federal government to go and take care of us. >> is that how you think about health care reform, something that ultimately would beat up on california? >> yes, it is. right now, i cannot imagine why we would have like i said, for instance, our senators and congressional people how they would vote for something like that where they are representing nebraska and not us. and by the way, as i said in my state of the state, that's the biggest rip-off, i mean, that is against the law to buy a vote. >> talking about